[squeakland] Default project on launch of Etoys-to-Go

Steve Thomas sthomas1 at gosargon.com
Wed Aug 7 15:55:30 EDT 2013

So some more details:
I have two USB sticks both formated to FAT32 (which yes is the preferred
format) one works fine the other doesn't.

I looked at them using gparted in Ubuntu and see USB that works has the
flags: boot and lba set, where as the one that does not has no flags set.

I simply added the flags: *boot, lba *using gparted and now my simple test
with creating a shell script works (ie -rwxr-xr-x 1 steve steve 10 Aug  7
15:33 test.sh).

WooHoo!!!!  Now I just need to prep and test 36 USB sticks by 10pm tonight
then deliver them to folks heading to airport by 11pm.


On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>wrote:

> That shouldn't depend on how cheap your USB stick is, but only on the
> configuration of the Linux machine you plug it in.
> FAT32 is indeed the right format to use if you want the stick to be
> compatible across all platforms.  However, with FAT32 you cannot change
> permissions for individual files. All files get the same permission.
> You should be able to change the default permissions to include the
> executable bit though, but this may not be trivial.
> Another "trick" to try might be renaming etoys.sh to etoys.bat, then eject
> and insert the stick again. Apparently, files with a .bat/.com/.exe
> extension are made executable:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks/+bug/663815
> These and more ideas are posted here:
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/23128/how-do-i-execute-a-file-from-a-fat-usb-drive
> - Bert -
> On 2013-08-07, at 18:52, Mike Lee <curiouslee at gmail.com> wrote:
> Steve,
> The simpler drag and drop should work except that the Windows exe us
> nested inside the Macintosh app bundle. It seemed easier, and it's what the
> team knows, to keep the projects inside the one Etoys projects folder.
> I also ran into the same permissions problem trying out Etoys to Go in
> Ubuntu on VirtualBox on a Mac. I haven't turned my attention back to that
> and would also love to know of a workaround or fix.
> Mike
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 7, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Steve Thomas <sthomas1 at gosargon.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Mike Lee <curiouslee at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm planning to drag other projects in the Etoys folder on the custom USB
>> drive into the new default project to generate thumbnails making that
>> screen function as a simple launcher for a collection of projects.
>> The real world user scenario will be my youths in Zambia doing this
>> change on a copy of the Etoys-to-Go image on a USB drive to prepare some
>> projects for staff at partners like the Ministry of Education to view on
>> their locked-down machines. Etoys-to-Go is shaping up to be a great
>> solution for this situation.
> So a simpler solution might be to simply place the starting project in the
> same folder as the etoys application then ask "staff" to simply drag and
> drop the project onto the Etoys App icon. Or perhaps I am missing your
> point/goal.
> Also another option would be to "add your own quick guides, which could
> perhaps open projects"  If that would be of use let me know and I will look
> up how to do it.  There are some gotcha's but with proper instructions it
> should be easy to do.
> Lastly, what format are you using for the USB stick?  Need to be sure it
> will work on Windows/Linux/Mac.  Part of the reason I ask is that I am
> having a heck of a time trying to prepare 40 USB sitcks for some kids at an
> orphanage in Colombia.  May be because I bought cheap USBs.  I have one USB
> that works fine in all and it is FAT32, but for whatever reason when I try
> to format FAT32 then use on the Ubuntu laptops I put together, I can't
> change permissions in Linux to allow etoys.sh to run.
> Stephen
> Stephen


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