[squeakland] Learnable Programming

mokurai at earthtreasury.org mokurai at earthtreasury.org
Fri Nov 9 15:42:18 EST 2012

Copied to Etoys-Dev. We can drop this topic from the general Etoys
discussion, and take up Etoys By Example there. I will raise these
refactoring issues on Squeak Dev also.

On Thu, November 8, 2012 9:32 am, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> On 2012-11-08, at 00:11, mokurai at earthtreasury.org wrote:
>> A complete refactoring of Squeak would be a huge undertaking, but I have
>> in mind refactoring a little bit at a time, as recommended in Extreme
>> Programming. At some point, I intend to produce a list of issues that I
>> would like to see fixed. Some of them are quite simple, such as objects
>> not in categories in the Object Catalog, and useful objects not in the
>> Object Catalog at all. (Tetris is not in the Games category.) Producing
>> meaningful comments for most Classes is more complex. There are other
>> coding issues, including bugs. Then there are architectural issues,
>> where
>> we have to ask what purposes we are trying to fulfill.
> Since you're new here I should mention that our medium-term goal is to
> merge the Etoys fork of Squeak back into the main squeak.org version,
> which has a larger and more active developer community. The Etoys image
> than would become just a pre-configured variant of Squeak.
> That means that if you think about adding better comments for Etoys
> objects, this would best be done in the Etoys image. Comments for other
> Squeak classes would better be contributed directly to Squeak at
> squeak.org.

Noted. I assume that you mean balloon help in Etoys, and Class comments in

> Also, since this is very much a developer issue, the etoys-dev list would
> be better suited as discussion place.
> - Bert -
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