A good book on Squeak? (Martin Scott Goldberg <email@example.com>)
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From: Martin Scott Goldberg <wgungfu at csd.uwm.edu>
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Subject: Re: A good book on Squeak?
To: squeakland at squeakland.org
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 18:42:22 -0600 (CST)
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>>Hi, Jim -
>>Now, *there's* a question! Depends on where you are "coming from".
>>I'll point you to what I know is "out there" and then let you be the
>>judge of whether any are "good books on Squeak".
>>If you have a background in computer science or engineering, etc. and
>>want a kind of "text book" -- based on an earlier version of Squeak
>>which would be downloaded from "squeak.org" you might try Mark
>>Guzdial's book on Squeak published by Prentice Hall in 2000.
>>Squeak: Object Oriented Design with Multimedia Applications
>>see this amazon url:
>>Mark used this book at a text and intro to Squeak for his
>>first/second year C.S. students at Georgia Tech.
I have that book, and it's actually the one that introduced me to this
list. Being in CS, it was in a format I prefer material to be
presented to me. So you're right on the money with that comment.
>>Mark and I coedited:
>>Squeak Open Personal computing and MutiMedia, also published by
>>Prentice Hall (and referenced on that same amazon.com page0
>>This book is more a "history" of how Squeak came to pass with
>>contributions from several of the open source contributors. There
>>are chapters on porting Squeak, sound and music in Squeak, etc., etc.
>>There are other books listed on the amazon page as well.
>>If you are looking for a book which is based in the "etoy" component
>>of Squeak and geared toward a younger /less technical user group and
>>discusses the use of Squeak in a learning enviornment, then, I regret
>>to say, "not yet". There are a few groups/people working on such
>>books, but none (as far as I know) have been published yet...If all
>>goes well, there will be one such "project book for
>>teachers/curriculum guide" available late spring or early summer,
>>authored by 4th/5th grade teacher BJ Conn, and myself.
I would say there is one book out there geared towards a younger group,
though it's borderline on the "less technical".
Squeak: A Quick Trip To ObjectLand
I've read it and while it's not my taste, it uses a storybook type format
for presenting a good intro to programming with Squeak and OOP concepts.
>>I hope this helps...
>>Tell us more about your interest and how you'd like to use (or are
Look forward to seeing your book.
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