[etoys-dev] Dev meeting

Bert Freudenberg bert at freudenbergs.de
Mon Mar 15 16:07:04 EDT 2010

Hi folks,

we had a brief chat today, log below. Even more brief:

* QuickGuides translations: see http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-297
* new update stream: send me your htpasswd (privately) to be able to commit
* Tim is busy: don't wait for him to start doing stuff here again, just Do It :)

So long,

- Bert -

[16:54:29] <milan_zimmermann> just a note, i will be away during today software meet.
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[20:19:05] <milan_zimmermann> actually i made it back sort of in time, maybe we are not on .. do not see tim
[20:20:01] <kencausey> or Rita
[20:20:15] <kencausey> Is life intruding for Tim these days?
[20:21:27] <jecel> Tim is deeply involved in the Haiti OLPC deployment, I think
[20:21:32] <kencausey> Ah
[20:22:06] <bertf> rita is not here
[20:22:42] <bertf> milan_zimmermann: anythin you want to talk about?
[20:23:47] <bertf> I have looked at localized quickguides
[20:23:49] <bertf> http://tracker.squeakland.org/browse/SQ-297
[20:24:39] <bertf> made a version for testing - it has english and spanish guides
[20:24:46] <bertf> http://etoys.squeak.org/experimental/
[20:25:19] <milan_zimmermann> bertf - i did not made any progress, i need to look at karl's image he is preparing for etoys unloading/loading via NC , but me weekend was completely full
[20:25:27] <bertf> someone would have to add more languages. even the spanish is outdated
[20:25:40] <bertf> milan_zimmermann: sure. just asking :)
[20:26:13] <milan_zimmermann> bertf - how different is the quickguides from the version in released etoys
[20:26:34] <bertf> milan_zimmermann: no idea. but kathleen has been hard a twork I hear
[20:27:03] <bertf> well this version is identical to the last release, it only adds a spanish translation
[20:27:29] <milan_zimmermann> ah i see
[20:27:51] <bertf> this is just to make it easy for the educators or someone else to test adding more languages
[20:28:47] <bertf> Btw, I got zero applications for commit rights to the update stream
[20:28:58] <bertf> I'd have expected at least someone to respond
[20:30:06] <milan_zimmermann> on etoys-dev ? sorry i have not even checked since last week
[20:30:33] <milan_zimmermann> am late on everything...
[20:30:50] <bertf> was more than a week ago I think. I announced a new update stream
[20:31:16] <milan_zimmermann> the one you and ken created on squeak?
[20:31:21] <milan_zimmermann> webdav
[20:31:30] <bertf> ah no. last week. I made it with Ken after the last meeting
[20:31:36] <bertf> yes that one
[20:32:11] <kencausey> yep, just one weedk
[20:32:13] <kencausey> err week
[20:32:25] <milan_zimmermann> understand .. i will reply with a request for upload rights, although have
[20:32:37] <bertf> don
[20:32:40] <bertf> 't
[20:32:42] <milan_zimmermann> s/although have//
[20:32:49] <milan_zimmermann> oh
[20:32:52] <bertf> err. don't send the passwd to the list ;)
[20:33:29] <bertf> I mean feel free to reply publically but do not include the password
[20:33:46] <milan_zimmermann> yes :0
[20:34:01] <kencausey> "aka Think Before Posting"
[20:34:20] <milan_zimmermann> yes
[20:34:44] <bertf> kencausey: hehe. well sending around an ssh pubkey is okay but htpasswd is not ...
[20:35:14] <bertf> and unless you know the details it sort-of seems similar
[20:36:32] <bertf> another btw: I briefly chatted with tim today. he indeed is in Haiti-mode, doesn't have time for anything else. talked to him about creole translations
[20:37:19] <kencausey> good to know
[20:37:34] <-- jecel (~jecel at 189-19-1-51.dsl.telesp.net.br) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[20:41:22] <milan_zimmermann> is there beginnings of creole translation for etoys? i just looked at https://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/etoys but cannot reach
[20:43:47] <bertf> sugarlabs has server problems
[20:44:27] <bertf> but in Etoys we have an "ht" translation, yes
[20:44:56] <bertf> anyway about tim: don't wait for him to start doing stuff again, just Do It :)
[20:52:58] <milan_zimmermann> i realize that - i am only limited by myself (time, work etc) - and that is a big limitation for a long time :(
[20:53:56] <bertf> Well that's just how it is. No worries :)
[20:53:59] <bertf>  so we're done with the meeting then I guess.?
[20:55:00] <milan_zimmermann> i think so - thanks for  getting in touch (and all your work!)
[20:56:05] <milan_zimmermann> ok bye now everyone
[20:59:43] <bertf> bye

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