[Fwd: Re: [etoys-dev] How to get a nice EToys based development environment?]

Derek O'Connell doconnel at gmail.com
Wed Sep 30 06:22:15 EDT 2009

Andreas Raab wrote:
> How do people feel about bringing Squeak.org and Etoys together again?

+1000001 :-)

Etoys has for a while been more Squeak-ish than Squeak IMHO. At some
point in the past few years, for reasons I cannot remember right now, it
became impossible/difficult to swap projects between Squeak & Etoys and
I have since mainly used Etoys. I still have many projects in old Squeak
images and newer ones in Etoys. My own personal mess but it would be
nice to clean it up in one combined image at some point in the future.
I'm short on time but would be gladly help in any such effort when I can.


> Here is a VHLQ (very high-level question): How do people feel about
> bringing Squeak.org and Etoys together again? Since the Etoys-haters
> left, there is both room as well as a need for a driving application. A
> merger with Etoys would give Squeak back its primary purpose for
> existence, would allow the Etoys community to benefit from improvements
> made at Squeak.org and allow of us to focus our efforts in trying to
> provide a unified artifact for personal dynamic media. We have an open
> development process that I think could work for such a project so that
> at the end of the day the Squeakland release may come with a special
> "skin" for the UI but where the basic system is a Squeak.org image right
> out of the box.
> I'm not sure if we have the resources to do this quickly but I'd like at
> least to raise the question to see how people feel about it. Is this
> even option?
> Cheers,
>   - Andreas
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