Fonts (was Re: [etoys-dev] Wording in Clouds)

Edward Cherlin echerlin at
Fri Jul 31 23:10:56 EDT 2009

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima<yoshiki at> wrote:
> At Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:05:30 -0700,
> Andreas Raab wrote:
>> Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
>> >   Not sure what you meant by a standard font, but Batang is designed
>> > for writing Korean.  Yes, it is missing some phonetic characters but
>> > also some kanjis in the picture is wrong.  (here comes our favorite
>> > problem.)
>> Ah, that explains it. Is there a way of telling directly from the font
>> which language(s) they are supposed to support? Or is this trial and error?

The font name is in the language. This works for me, since I lived in
Korea and Japan, but not for foreigners in general. For example, on
Linux, Batang, Dotum, and Baekmuk (바당, 도듬, 백묵) are Korean; Kaiti,
Mingti, and Sungti (楷体, 明体,宋体 ) are Chinese; Kochi and Sazanami (こち,
故知; さざなみ, 細波) are Japanese. Educated natives of course recognize their
own preferred font styles as readily as Americans can tell typewriter,
serif, script, and black letter apart.

>  I would think the trial and error, or just look at the font
> designers document (like
>  It appears that true type fonts on Window has a property called
> codepage range, but I don't know if you can rely on it in general.
> (I'm back to a sane Internet environment for now.  I'll investigate a
> bit more.)

I use the FontMatrix utility to view character repertoires of fonts.

>> >   For Japanese, MS Mincho, MS UI Gothic, MS P Mincho or MS P Gothic,
>> > or on Vista or later Meiryo are the ones to use.
>> Yup, they look much better. A paragraph from
>> rendered in MS UI Gothic attached.
>  Yes, this looks good!
> -- Yoshiki
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