Fonts (was Re: [etoys-dev] Wording in Clouds)

Edward Cherlin echerlin at
Wed Jul 29 15:10:11 EDT 2009

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Nikolay Suslov<nsuslovi at> wrote:
> Hello, Bert!
> If it is not really hard to ship now the fonts right in the image, please,
> could you point, how to do that?
> The size of the image is much less critical then foreign language barrier
> right now.
> May be, have image's choice: the default for latin1 languages and another
> big one with additional fonts (Cyrillic etc. support)?

Several readily available Free Truetype fonts include Latin and
Cyrillic. For example,

Bookman Uralic
Century Schoolbook
Deja Vu
Roman Uralic
Schoolbook Uralic
URW Bookman, Chancery, Gothic, Palladio

Each of these font files is less than 1 MB in size. The big fonts are
those that include Han characters for Chinese, Japanese, or Korean.

> But agree, that in future perspective on Fonts support, it is better to have
> full Pango or FreeType library support.
> Thanks,
> Nikolay
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at>
> wrote:
>> On 28.07.2009, at 12:20, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
>>>  Hi, Nikolay,
>>>> It seems to be that Russian language does not work yet (using
>>>> Etoys-To-Go), when changing the language from the tools
>>>> bar, it tries to install the fonts (FontRussianEnvironment.sar), but
>>>> they are missed, return an error.
>>>> However, the Russian translation is:
>>>> Make A Project:  Начать новый проект
>>>> Gallery of Projects:  Галерея проектов
>>>> Tutorials And Demos:   Уроки и примеры


>>>  In the current timeframe, I'm afraid to say that non-latin1
>>> languages is beyond our capacity. (It should work if we have the font
>>> file there, or on Pango.) But thank you so much for providing it and
>>> see if we can fixed in the future releases.
>> Well, we might ship the -LGC font variants. This would give us a much
>> wider range of accented Latin characters, plus Cyrillic and Greek ones. On
>> the downside the image would grow by several megabytes.
>> Alternatively, make some more effort to support Pango not only on Linux.
>> Or FreeType, which will be easier but less powerful. For both of these we
>> must include the fonts as files instead of in the image (need to ship font
>> files to assure projects still behave identically across platforms).
>> - Bert -
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