[etoys-dev] Bug tracking in Linux

Bert Freudenberg bert at freudenbergs.de
Wed Dec 23 05:44:49 EST 2009

On 23.12.2009, at 08:40, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:
> I think we have an important bug regarding the information we convey for third party Deb or Rpm packagers.
> As I reported months ago, the Squeakland download page is very far to be perfect for a free software packager because it brings *no* information about the source code. As you may know, each binary package comes with its source package. 
> As it is now, it is not clear at all for a thrird party packager where are the sources.
> For an external viewer, it looks like Etoys pretend to be free software but it is not (source code not there) or it looks like someone want to protect some asset (Is it a post Sophie trauma?)
> I wrote a proposal (far to be perfect) for the download page, but Tim removed it because of translation issue in the seb server, which I agree because the way it was rendered was far to be perfect)
> While writing the proposal, I also received unfriendly feedback from Berg for tiny details.
> Guys, do you have any problem providing information about the source code?
> It is a tiny effort to clarify this situation.

Agreed. Based on what you wrote, here is what I came up with to explain the source situation on the download page: 

Squeak Etoys is made of two parts: a cross-platform part, written in Squeak Smalltalk, and the Squeak Virtual Machine to run it. The Virtual Machine is an independent project, please see squeakvm.org for its source code. All other source code is included with the regular download. Simply press Cmd-comma or Alt-comma to open the Smalltalk IDE tools. To contribute, please go to dev.squeakland.org.

Additionally, there should be a "source" tarball - or we simply point to these ones:


- Bert -

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