[etoys-dev] Bug tracking in Linux

Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernandes at edu.ge.ch
Wed Dec 23 02:40:33 EST 2009

I think we have an important bug regarding the information we convey for
third party Deb or Rpm packagers.

As I reported months ago, the Squeakland download page is very far to be
perfect for a free software packager because it brings *no* information
about the source code. As you may know, each binary package comes with its
source package.
As it is now, it is not clear at all for a thrird party packager where are
the sources.

For an external viewer, it looks like Etoys pretend to be free software but
it is not (source code not there) or it looks like someone want to protect
some asset (Is it a post Sophie trauma?)

I wrote a proposal (far to be perfect) for the download page, but Tim
removed it because of translation issue in the seb server, which I agree
because the way it was rendered was far to be perfect)
While writing the proposal, I also received unfriendly feedback from Berg
for tiny details.

Guys, do you have any problem providing information about the source code?
It is a tiny effort to clarify this situation.


2009/12/23 Milan Zimmermann <milan.zimmermann at sympatico.ca>

> > The situation is different on Mac and Windows where so far Squeakland is
> >  the only "vendor". But IMHO Squeakland cannot and should not try to be
> the
> >  vendor for Etoys on Linux. It's a Good Thing (tm) there are no RPMs nor
> >  DEBs on Squeakland for Etoys 4, because that would interfere with and
> >  undermine the efforts of maintainers in the distros.
> I definitely agree with that. I know you have been helping a lot to engage
> them.
> >  This of course should
> >  be mentioned on the downloads page, and a tar ball should be provided so
> >  that packagers know where to start and get new releases from.
> We mention a bit about distros here:
> http://wiki.squeakland.org/display/sq/Creating+Etoys+Release+for+Squeakland%2C+OLPC%2C+or+Etoys-
> to-go<http://wiki.squeakland.org/display/sq/Creating+Etoys+Release+for+Squeakland%2C+OLPC%2C+or+Etoys-%0Ato-go>
> But yes, it should be on the download page ... and we should remove the old
> versions from the download page, I think. But I don't know what exactly to
> put
> in the tarball. If one of us remembers, let's bring it up on the next dev
> irc
> meeting.

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