Fonts (was Re: [etoys-dev] Wording in Clouds)

Bert Freudenberg bert at freudenbergs.de
Sat Aug 1 09:23:16 EDT 2009


On 01.08.2009, at 07:36, Andreas Raab wrote:

> Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> The list of *ttf on the Mac isn't really long, most fonts are not  
>> in truetype format apparently:
>> ('Al Bayan' 'Andale Mono' 'AppleMyungjo' 'Arial' 'Arial Black'  
>> 'Arial Hebrew' 'Arial Narrow' 'Arial Rounded MT Bold' 'Arial  
>> Unicode MS' 'Ayuthaya' 'Baghdad' 'Brush Script MT' 'Chalkboard'  
>> 'Comic Sans MS' 'Corsiva Hebrew' 'Courier New' 'DecoType Naskh'  
>> 'Devanagari MT' 'Euphemia UCAS' 'Georgia' 'Gujarati MT' 'Gurmukhi  
>> MT' 'Impact' 'InaiMathi' 'Kailasa' 'Kokonor' 'Krungthep'  
>> 'KufiStandardGK' 'Microsoft Sans Serif' 'Mshtakan' 'Nadeem' 'New  
>> Peninim MT' 'Plantagenet Cherokee' 'Sathu' 'Silom' 'Tahoma' 'Times  
>> New Roman' 'Trebuchet MS' 'Verdana' 'Webdings' 'Wingdings'  
>> 'Wingdings 2' 'Wingdings 3')
>
> That can't be right. Where are the standard Apple fonts? What format  
> are they in? Are we perhaps looking in the wrong directories?

No, it's the right directory for system-provided fonts (plus /System/ 
Library/Fonts). But many fonts are in *.dfont format or *.otf (Font  
Suitcase and OpenType), and quite a lot are stored in resource forks  
only (appearing as zero size files, see below).

The official list is here:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1642

>> There were 5 more fonts but their names were mangled (IIRC fonts  
>> can store their meta data in various languages and encodings).
>
> Try "TTFileDescription fontFromUser" - this will show the family  
> names extracted from the fonts instead of the file names.


Doesn't work, we do not have ToolBuilder in the Etoys image. But it  
simply uses the keys, right? Here they are, the last ones are mangled:

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- Bert -


Faust:~ bert$ ll /Library/Fonts
total 579688
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin  10629164 Sep 24  2007 #Gungseouche.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   1214592 Sep 24  2007 #HeadlineA.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   9492864 Sep 24  2007 #PCmyoungjo.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   4674324 Sep 24  2007 #Pilgiche.dfont
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Academy Engraved LET  
Fonts
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     82080 Sep 29  2007 AlBayan.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     81852 Sep 29  2007 AlBayanBold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   1254080 Oct  3  2007  
AmericanTypewriter.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    109700 Oct  3  2007 Andale Mono.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    336673 Oct  3  2007 Apple Chancery.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   5801849 Sep 24  2007 Apple LiGothic  
Medium.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   8882856 Sep 24  2007 Apple LiSung  
Light.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     57456 Jan 25  2007 AppleCasual.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin  17685248 Sep 24  2007 AppleMyungjo.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Jun 15  2006 Arial
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Aug 19  2006 Arial Black
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    122556 Oct  3  2007 Arial Black.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    558672 Oct  3  2007 Arial Bold Italic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    750984 Oct  3  2007 Arial Bold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    553284 Oct  3  2007 Arial Italic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Aug 19  2006 Arial Narrow
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    183932 Oct  3  2007 Arial Narrow Bold  
Italic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    184420 Oct  3  2007 Arial Narrow Bold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    184944 Oct  3  2007 Arial Narrow Italic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    179492 Oct  3  2007 Arial Narrow.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Aug 19  2006 Arial Rounded Bold
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     49296 Oct  3  2007 Arial Rounded Bold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin  23278008 Oct  3  2007 Arial Unicode.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    773236 Oct  3  2007 Arial.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     36216 Sep 29  2007 ArialHB.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     35548 Sep 29  2007 ArialHBBold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    297848 Sep 29  2007 Ayuthaya.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     95792 Sep 29  2007 Baghdad.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Bank Gothic
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    416519 Oct  3  2007 Baskerville.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin  13910174 Sep 24  2007 BiauKai.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    141083 Oct  3  2007 BigCaslon.dfont
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Blackmoor LET Fonts
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Jun 15  2006 BlairMdITC TT-Medium
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Bodoni Ornaments ITC TT
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Bodoni SvtyTwo ITC TT
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Bodoni SvtyTwo OS ITC  
TT
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Bodoni SvtyTwo SC ITC  
TT
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Apr 26  2007 Bordeaux Roman Bold  
LET Fonts
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Bradley Hand ITC TT- 
Bold
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Aug 19  2006 Brush Script
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     56844 Oct  3  2007 Brush Script.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     75698 Mar  7  2007 Capitals.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    112756 Oct  3  2007 Chalkboard.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    107564 Oct  3  2007 ChalkboardBold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     68332 Sep 29  2007 CharcoalCY.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    778819 Oct  3  2007 Cochin.dfont
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Aug 19  2006 Comic Sans MS
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    120120 Oct  3  2007 Comic Sans MS Bold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    135484 Oct  3  2007 Comic Sans MS.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    236964 Oct  3  2007 Copperplate.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     40340 Sep 29  2007 Corsiva.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     42096 Sep 29  2007 CorsivaBold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Aug 19  2006 Courier New
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    506640 Oct  3  2007 Courier New Bold  
Italic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    699932 Oct  3  2007 Courier New Bold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    596624 Oct  3  2007 Courier New Italic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    692792 Oct  3  2007 Courier New.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Jun 15  2006 Cracked
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     67608 Sep 29  2007 DecoTypeNaskh.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    332348 Sep 29  2007 DevanagariMT.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    315644 Sep 29  2007 DevanagariMTBold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    345894 Oct  3  2007 Didot.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    175900 Sep 29  2007 EuphemiaCASBold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    191156 Sep 29  2007 EuphemiaCASItalic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    212752 Sep 29  2007 EuphemiaCASRegular.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    300270 Oct  3  2007 Futura.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    108128 Sep 29  2007 GenevaCY.dfont
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Aug 19  2006 Georgia
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    167476 Oct  3  2007 Georgia Bold Italic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    148768 Oct  3  2007 Georgia Bold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    165208 Oct  3  2007 Georgia Italic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    159656 Oct  3  2007 Georgia.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    568324 Oct  3  2007 GillSans.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    224940 Sep 29  2007 GujaratiMT.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    213708 Sep 29  2007 GujaratiMTBold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     64572 Sep 29  2007 Gurmukhi.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Jun 15  2006 Handwriting - Dakota
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   7501763 Sep 24  2007 Hei.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    276747 Sep 29  2007 HelveticaCY.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    106279 Oct  3  2007 Herculanum.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   1599007 Oct  3  2007 Hoefler Text.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    138488 Oct  3  2007 Impact.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    228792 Sep 29  2007 InaiMathi.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Jazz LET Fonts
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   7892096 Sep 24  2007 Kai.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    594720 Sep 29  2007 Kailasa.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   1006136 Sep 29  2007 Kokonor.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    183036 Sep 29  2007 Krungthep.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     79292 Sep 29  2007 KufiStandardGK.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    430304 Oct  3  2007 MarkerFelt.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    652248 Oct  3  2007 Microsoft Sans  
Serif.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Mona Lisa Solid ITC TT
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     37320 Sep 29  2007 MshtakanBold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     41400 Sep 29  2007 MshtakanBoldOblique.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     51360 Sep 29  2007 MshtakanOblique.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     46172 Sep 29  2007 MshtakanRegular.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   7108232 Sep 24  2007 NISC18030.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     93904 Sep 29  2007 Nadeem.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     43868 Sep 29  2007 NewPeninimMT.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     48116 Sep 29  2007 NewPeninimMTBold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     50384 Sep 29  2007  
NewPeninimMTBoldInclined.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     44520 Sep 29  2007  
NewPeninimMTInclined.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    561459 Oct  3  2007 Optima.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   3629894 Sep 24  2007 Osaka.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   2306535 Sep 24  2007 OsakaMono.dfont
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Jun 15  2006 Palatino
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    295478 Oct  3  2007 Papyrus.dfont
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Party LET Fonts
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    119484 Sep 29  2007 PlantagenetCherokee.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Jun 15  2006 PortagoITC TT
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Princetown LET Fonts
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     32420 Sep 29  2007 Raanana.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     31636 Sep 29  2007 RaananaBold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Santa Fe LET Fonts
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    396952 Sep 29  2007 Sathu.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Savoye LET Fonts
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 SchoolHouse Cursive  
B.suit
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 SchoolHouse Printed A
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    281848 Sep 29  2007 Silom.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    475746 Oct  3  2007 Skia.dfont
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Snell Roundhand
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Stone Sans ITC TT
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Synchro LET Fonts
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    626928 Oct  3  2007 Tahoma Bold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    681120 Oct  3  2007 Tahoma.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Aug 19  2006 Times New Roman
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    620008 Oct  3  2007 Times New Roman Bold  
Italic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    842168 Oct  3  2007 Times New Roman  
Bold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    660268 Oct  3  2007 Times New Roman  
Italic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    834452 Oct  3  2007 Times New Roman.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Aug 19  2006 Trebuchet MS
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    137008 Oct  3  2007 Trebuchet MS Bold  
Italic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    129360 Oct  3  2007 Trebuchet MS Bold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    144820 Oct  3  2007 Trebuchet MS Italic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    138848 Oct  3  2007 Trebuchet MS.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Mar  7  2007 Type Embellishmnt One  
LET
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Aug 19  2006 Verdana
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    173132 Oct  3  2007 Verdana Bold Italic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    153260 Oct  3  2007 Verdana Bold.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    174612 Oct  3  2007 Verdana Italic.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    186188 Oct  3  2007 Verdana.ttf
-rw-rw-r--@ 1 root  admin         0 Aug 19  2006 Webdings
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    124308 Oct  3  2007 Webdings.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     68768 Oct  3  2007 Wingdings 2.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     38308 Oct  3  2007 Wingdings 3.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin     86384 Oct  3  2007 Wingdings.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin    528824 Oct  3  2007 Zapfino.dfont
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin  17965572 Sep 24  2007 ?? Pro.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin  15734520 Sep 24  2007 ????.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin  16163168 Sep 24  2007 ????.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin  17502828 Sep 24  2007 ????.ttf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin  11585924 Sep 24  2007 ?????? Pro  
W3.otf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin  11097336 Sep 24  2007 ?????? Pro  
W6.otf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   9367476 Sep 24  2007 ?????? Pro  
W3.otf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin  10114744 Sep 24  2007 ?????? Pro  
W4.otf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   8876804 Sep 24  2007 ?????? Pro  
W6.otf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   9260524 Sep 24  2007 ??????  
ProN W4.otf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   4281976 Sep 24  2007 ?????? Std  
W8.otf
-rw-rw-r--  1 root  admin   3646432 Sep 24  2007 ??????  
StdN W8.otf

/Library/Fonts/
total 214000
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel    263912 Oct  3  2007 Apple Braille Outline  
6 Dot.ttf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel    280980 Oct  3  2007 Apple Braille Outline  
8 Dot.ttf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel    183080 Oct  3  2007 Apple Braille  
Pinpoint 6 Dot.ttf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel    189668 Oct  3  2007 Apple Braille  
Pinpoint 8 Dot.ttf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel    135960 Oct  3  2007 Apple Braille.ttf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   1506200 Oct  3  2007 Apple Symbols.ttf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  15394588 Sep 24  2007 AppleGothic.ttf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel     67564 Sep 24  2007 AquaKanaBold.otf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel     67560 Sep 24  2007 AquaKanaRegular.otf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   1307154 Oct  3  2007 Courier.dfont
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel    121368 Oct  3  2007 Geeza Pro Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel    124328 Oct  3  2007 Geeza Pro.ttf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel    486916 Oct  3  2007 Geneva.dfont
-rw-r--r--@ 1 root  wheel         0 Oct  3  2007 HelveLTMM
-rw-r--r--@ 1 root  wheel         0 Oct  3  2007 Helvetica LT MM
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   2402112 Oct  3  2007 Helvetica.dfont
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   1262685 Oct  3  2007 HelveticaNeue.dfont
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel     20632 Oct  3  2007 Keyboard.dfont
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   2562100 Oct  3  2007 LastResort.dfont
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   2295501 Oct  3  2007 LucidaGrande.dfont
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel    531341 Oct  3  2007 Monaco.dfont
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel     75196 Oct  3  2007 Symbol.dfont
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel    363516 Sep 29  2007 Thonburi.ttf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel    363732 Sep 29  2007 ThonburiBold.ttf
-rw-r--r--@ 1 root  wheel         0 Oct  3  2007 Times LT MM
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   1763409 Oct  3  2007 Times.dfont
-rw-r--r--@ 1 root  wheel         0 Oct  3  2007 TimesLTMM
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel    154620 Oct  3  2007 ZapfDingbats.dfont
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  10823828 Sep 24  2007 ?? Pro.ttf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  18206848 Sep 24  2007 ????.ttf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  13631256 Sep 24  2007 ????.ttf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   9690520 Sep 24  2007 ??????  
ProN W3.otf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   9801964 Sep 24  2007 ??????  
ProN W6.otf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   7467416 Sep 24  2007 ??????  
ProN W3.otf
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   7515064 Sep 24  2007 ??????  
ProN W6.otf



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